Curse

Tyla · Dec 10, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

name describes it all.
let the community try and balance some skills and help izzy out!

placebo overdose · Dec 10, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10

this gave me a headache lol

krypt1200 · Dec 10, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

I just think this type of thread is repetitive. Lets say, they have a skill nerf, and balance them, and make lowly ones more powerful. you ALWAYS are going to haev crappy skills. there are THOUSANDS of them, no doubt some are not going to be used, leave things be, and it wont be a problem.

Overpowered?? Nerf it, id give the go ahead. But theres no hope for making bad skills useable constantly, theres always gonna be that problem.

**Marty Silverblade** · Dec 10, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by krypt1200

But theres no hope for making bad skills useable constantly, theres always gonna be that problem.

True, but there are loads of skills that just suck hard and have no place in any build whatsoever. Warrior's Endurance, for example, is crap, there's never any reason to use it over an IAS.

ensoriki · Dec 13, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

[card]Armor of Frost[/card] Recharge lowered to 25
[card]Frigid Armor[/card]armor buff also affects Fire damage
[card]Glowing Ice[/card] Recharge reduced to 6 damage lowed lowered to 4...37
[card]Ice Spear[/card]Moves twice as fast
[card]Icy Prism[/card] 3/4 cast time.
[card]Maelstrom[/card]Remove exhaustion (Oh common, you KNOW you want this buffed)
[card]Mist Form[/card] you also cannot take damage from cold damage
[card]shard storm[/card] and all adjacent foes
[card]Slippery ground[/card] and dazed for 4 seconds (since kd is 2 seconds, the actual amount of time they are dazed for standing up is 2 seconds)
[card]Swirling aura[/card] 30 recharge. and you move 10% faster
[card]Vapor Blade[/card] 1 second cast (You know you desire this)
[card]Doom[/card] Max damage increased to 150
[card]Explosive Growth[/card] reduced to 30 recharge
[card]Feast of souls[card] and gain 1 energy
[card]Reclaim Essence[card] Gain 5...17 energy after 8 seconds allied summoned creature is destroyed
[card]Renewing Memories[/card] effect increased to 6....38% less energy
[card]Ritual Lord[/card]reduced duration to 20 seconds,gain 5...30 health whenever you cast a ritual.
[card]Wielder's Zeal[/card] effect increased to 1..6
[card]Attuned was Songkai[/card] increased to 15 energy, recharge decreased to 30 seconds
[card]Empowerment[/card]maximum energy gain increased to 15
[card]Spirit's Gift[/card] changed to in the area of that spirit
[card]Signet of Ghostly Might[/card] increased duration to 12 seconds
[card]Union[/card]changed to level 1...9 spirit, takes 10 damage instead of 15, easily interrupted
[card]Earthbind[/card] and are crippled for 6 seconds
[card]Disenchantment[/card] reduced to 4 second cast
[card]Armor of unfeeling[/card]reduction now scales 3....18 while casting binding rituals
[card]dulled weapon[/card] and deal -5 less damage
[card]Ghostly weapon[/card] Next two attacks[/card]
[card]Mighty was vorizun[/card]duration changed to 10...35 +armor changed to 20
[card]Defiant was Xinrae[/card]recharged increased to 20,cast time increased to 1 second, duration increased to 5...27
[card]Fox Fangs[/card] you also DW for 2...4 seconds
[card]malicious strike[/card]This instantly recharges if you are below 50% hp
[card]Deadly haste[/card] And touched skills, effect increased to 5...45%
[card]Palm Strike[/card] reduced to 8 recharge
[card]Sharpen daggers[/card] and your attacls do +5 damage against foes suffering from Deep wound
[card]Locust's Fury[/card] No longer elite, that or changed to +55% chance to dual strike and you move 25% faster
[card]Spirit walk[/card] Shadow step to target, if that target was a spirit this skill instantly recharges.
Recharge increased to 20
[card]Swap[/card]shadow step to target if that foe has more health than you, you gain 80 energy, if you have more health than the target you lose 100 health and 5 energy.
[card]Golden Lotus strike[/card]reduced to 8 recharge,
[card]Horns of the ox[/card]damage increased to +5...20, if you hit a moving foe, you suffer from weakness
[card]Repeating Strike[/card] damage increased to +10...33...35
[card]Temple strike[/card] 15 recharge
[card]Golden skull strike[/card]deals an additional +1...10 damage.
[card]Nine Tail strike[/card]1/2 cast
[card]Disrupting Stab[/card]1/2 cast this skill does 20...40 damage (armor affected) if it interrupts a spell
[card]Jagged strike[/card] If this hits a foe suffering from Deep wound you deal +5....24 damage.
[card]Desperate Strike[/card]Does an additional +1...13 damage to foes under an enchantment
[card]Word of Censure[/card] 1/2 cast damage increased 15...73 (It disables itself at 33% come on)
[card]Smite[/card] reduced recharge to 4 seconds (becomes the face of smiting prayers)
[card]Banish[/card] increased damage 20...58 (to compete with smite)
[card]Balthazar's Aura[/card] reduced to 20 energy, 20 recharge
[card]Balthazar's Pendulum[/card]and that foe suffers from deep wound for 3...9 seconds and takes 5...29 holy damage (It's still pretty conditional, but it gives DW and small holy damage)
[card]Kirin's Wrath[/card]decreased recharge to 20, energy increased to 10
[card]Symbol of Wrath[/card]decreased recharge to 20, energy increased to 10
[card]Holy Wrath[/card]increased max damage cap to 5....59
[card]Ray of Judgment[/card]All animated undead struck take Double damage from this and all foes hit begin burning for 3...8 seconds.
[card]Wail of Doom[/card] sacrifice increased to 30% energy and recharge lowered to 10
[card]Barbs[/card] and all adjacent foes
[card]cacophony[/card] also affects spells (This means its good vs paragons and spell casters)

Turbobusa · Dec 13, 2007, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Most of the ele skills you buff are perfectly viable as they are.
And Tenai's prison and Ice prison are supposed to have the same effect.

Wakka · Dec 13, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Suppose to be buffing bad spells lol nothing wrong with 90% of those ones tbh ^^

[skill]Mind Freeze[/skill][skill]Mind Burn[/skill][skill]Mind Shock[/skill]

Drop Exhaustion

10 second recharge on each

ensoriki · Dec 13, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12

I guess some of em are >.< (deep freeze) but....water eles ftw!
(made ice an teinai's prison the same now)
I thought Mind burn was supposed to be spammable Wakka but thats just me.
rawr added smiting >.<

unienaule · Dec 13, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

It causes exhaustion. You can't really spam exhaustion-causing skills, so at 10r no exhaustion, you'd use it as much as you can, so it would be spammed more than it is now.

Pyro maniac · Dec 13, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

yay, let's buff them as we did with [skill]Keystone Signet[/skill] and [skill]Discord[/skill]

placebo overdose · Dec 13, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

[card]Ritual Lord[/card]reduced duration to 20 seconds.
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how is that a buff?

moko · Dec 13, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

ensoriki:

Armor of Mist, Deep Freeze, Freezing Gust, Frozen Burst, Ice Prison, Ice Spikes, Tenai's Prison, Fox Fangs, HoTo, Disrupting Stab, Balth Aura and Barbs are all perfectly fine.

Mind Shock and Mind Freenze would be WAY too good without exhaustion.

such threads are usually full of people that have no real idea..but meh. :/

ensoriki · Dec 13, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo overdose

how is that a buff?

Whoops forgot to add something >.<

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokone

Armor of Mist, Deep Freeze, Freezing Gust, Frozen Burst, Ice Prison, Ice Spikes, Tenai's Prison, Fox Fangs, HoTo, Disrupting Stab, Balth Aura and Barbs are all perfectly fine.

mmm, I don't doubt your wrong about the water ele spells you mentioned, or barbs.

fox fangs is inferior to Wild strike except for being 1/2 cast.
Which in the currently world where pretty much every assassin has an IAS. doesn't mean much.
Wild strike can be used 2 times in the time it takes fox fangs to be used Once.
Removes a stance.
And has higher damage.
Fox fangs just executes a bit faster.
giving it a 1..3 second DW makes it on par with it.

Hoto still isn't as strong as it once was, and kiting makes the assassin inflicted with Weakness, still making it not as powerful as before. Seems perfectly fair =P
Disrupting stab, being 20...40 (armor affected) doesn't do much anyways.
since it would be armor affected (and only work on spells) its really going to do about 35 and below damage if it hits a spell.

Notice how you didn't complain about much else though =P
I think im growing on you.

Moloch Vein · Dec 13, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

[card]Wail of Doom[/card] sacrifice increased to 30% energy and recharge lowered to 10

Jesus Christ.

We were talking about buffs here...

ensoriki · Dec 13, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

eh I was thinking 20% sacrifice >.< but then I thought "I could get flamed"
So I made it 30%

Looks like Wail of Doom has me Doomed if I try, Doomed if I dont >.<

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

eh I was thinking 20% sacrifice >.< but then I thought "I could get flamed"
So I made it 30%

Looks like Wail of Doom has me Doomed if I try, Doomed if I dont >.<

You tried your best, and failed misreably. Bl.

Topic-Wise
[skill]Primal Rage[/skill] ~ Doesn't disable attack skills.
[skill]Magehunter's Smash[/skill] ~ Add some damage/aoe
[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill] ~ It's Smiting, add some dmg.

Pyro maniac · Dec 14, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill] ~ It's Smiting, add some dmg.

imo:

- Remove recharge time
- Increase Duration to 20 .. 70
- Instead of 'next time', it's 'whenever'. so it doesn't end when a kd is prevented.

This would still be a horrible elite on a monk, however running in on a mesmer or any other midline char would make it a good defensive buff.
Strippable Immunity to knockdowns seems fair to me

Xylia · Dec 14, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

[card]Barbs[/card] and all adjacent foes

You'd almost definitely need to increase energy cost and/or casting time for this to be feasible. Barbs is already pretty powerful.

Wakka · Dec 14, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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I thought Mind burn was supposed to be spammable Wakka but thats just me.

NOTHING with exhaustion is spammable! Maybe your thinking of [skill=text]Mind Blast[/skill]?

Yes they would be a bit over the top though, maybe increase energy cost to 15

ensoriki · Dec 14, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44

[card]Peace and harmony[/card]

Change to gain +3 energy regen.

Take a /mo secondary and cast it on your monk to be nice =P

also monks can use it for +2 energy regen (since its maintained)